Re: C++ jobs down another 40%

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In article
<66e7b0f7-4c71-4db4-a9f1-3f9d7e4dc5a5@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
James
Kanze <james.kanze@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 23, 11:02 pm, red floyd <redfl...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 23, 12:50 pm, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:

The number of job adverts in the UK citing C++ has fallen
40% for the second year in a row:


Hey, Jon! Wha'ts the market for F# jobs like?

[...]

Well, I just looked at it on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Sharp_%28programming_language%29

Looks like another bluff to me. All sorts of bells and whistles.
For me, personally, it is a no go, and primarlily because it is
based on .net framework.


FWIW, here is a fairly portable C# and CLR implementation:

http://www.mono-project.com


yep, in my case, I acknowledge that mono exists.
looking deeper into the project though, I am personally a little less
compelled:
it is, IMO, poorly architected and built on terrible code (and terrible
coding practices).


Uggh. That one is going to wait then.

granted, nothing is perfect.

in general, I like C# though, as for the most part it seems a fairly cleanly
designed language (apart from that it seems to need some level of "black
magic" to be able to parse).

I am a little more hesitant about the rest of the .NET framework though, and
would rather it was something capable of being statically compiled and
operated standalone.


I just looked at some of it in passing.
Looks like some kind of equivalent of JVM underneeth.

A single fact that you need to agree with something to even
have your app to run under it, is a total no go for me.

You can not even deliver your J# app as a single executable
is simply berzerk. And now, you can not even compile Java
starting with VC 2008 and higher. Disaster.

little in the language particularly prohibits this, only that I am not aware
of any standalone C# implementation.

it is, at the moment, a little easier to write standalone Java, since there
is both GCJ, and JBC is simple enough as to make it not particularly
difficult to trans-compile to C or ASM


Oh, interesting. Is there a way to generate Java code out
of C++/MFC by any chance?

(I have done so in the past in my
case). although, I don't presently like my current "ABI", but attempts to
design a newer/more efficient ABI ran into a few issues.

or such...


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