Re: C++ jobs down another 40%
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In article <ItSdnThEINvlcqnWnZ2dnUVZ8qZi4p2d@brightview.co.uk>, Jon
Harrop
<jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
James Kanze wrote:
On Dec 23, 11:02 pm, red floyd <redfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 23, 12:50 pm, Jon Harrop <j...@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
The number of job adverts in the UK citing C++ has fallen
40% for the second year in a row:
Hey, Jon! Wha'ts the market for F# jobs like?
There is one, albeit not as big as that for C++.
In practice, if you look at long term trends (and not short
swings), C++ is pretty safe for the future.
Are you saying that four years of rapid decline is a "short term swing"
and
not a "long term trend"?
Well, you have to put things in perspective.
Just taking C++ as some isolated case is not correct.
The same thing is happening to Java, at least from the traffic
I am seeing and that traffic is generated by mostly professional
programmers from every single leading sw house or every single
biggest and baddest enterprise for that matter.
From what I see, the decay in non dynamically scoped languages
largely comes from the fact that other languages can fulfill
the requirements in more and more situations.
"dynamically typed" is the correct term here. "dynamically scoped" means
something different which, no, most of these languages don't do (lexical
scope being far more common).
More and more of sw engineering is web related nowadays,
or information related. Just the fact that Google got so arrogant
as to challenge the Microsoft in their stronghold, the O/S
business by trying to obliterate the very concept of O/S as
something being inherently necessary in your box, says more
about it than anything else.
To challange WHO? Nothing less than Microsoft?
And in their MAIN game? What does it tell you?
that google is in for a cold shower once people, in general, come to
realize
what it is they are looking at...
You can not imagine how much would I like to see THAT show. :--}
it was metaphorical.
granted, a lot is done on the internet, but I personally would not give up
on using a real computer with a real OS.
I would not even DREAM of such a think even if Google paid me
trice as much as my box is worth and for so many reasons, that I could
write a book about it. EASILY. You know my writing style by now, right?
:--}
I don't follow.
I mean google trying to get into O/S business essentially.
I don't know much about it, but some time ago I have heard
that Google wants to go for Microsoft's throat in the O/S business.
Not that I would pay any attention to this kind of arrogance.
Google got so arrogant and obnoxious with ther "suck-cess" trip,
that they seem to even think: hey, what is miscrosoft?
Lets bully them out of the market with our horns.
And from what I have seen, they really think they've got some
"ace" card to do it with.
They want nothing less then "revolution" in computing!!!
Brrrrrr.
even though I have and use a
netbook, what is more notable than this is that I run a full-featured
Linux
on the thing (Ubuntu), rather than the shipped gimped distro (Xandros).
Actually, I do like Ubuntu quite a bit.
It was a breath of fresh air for a couple of months
after my win box was rooted and I simply could not use it.
It is almost there. In fat it IS there, and for all I do,
I could easily switch to it without loosing a thing.
yeah...
I still mostly use Windows, even though there is not a whole lot keeping me
there.
mostly I do so, since a larger potential userbase exists on Windows.
sadly, my project has been having MS-style technologies gradually creep in,
but nothing which would particularly hurt portability (only stuff which
would seem slightly "odd" on Linux...).
Except JVM under Linux runs about 2 times as slow for what I do.
Have no idea why. Sounds a bit weird to me.
Seconly, I can not run my monitoring firewall on it,
which is a total show stopper.
And finally, I do not like the NetBeans and Eclipse that much.
Pretty clumzy stuff, I'd say. Plus horrible code completion
functionality. Too convoluted everything.
The way I have it right now is a breeze for me.
But, as soon as I see a real good IDE, which could already
be there, except I did not see it, and I see my JVM running
as fast, I'd be willing to totally switch even before I
rewrite the firewall driver. The program code should be easy
to port. But the network driver interface could be a major
pain. I do need an equivalent of NDIS intermediate device
driver that sits as the lowest thing on the stack, just
above the netowork card driver.
I am WAY too fed up with this windows trip.
The most unstable thing in the world, even compared with pub domain
Linux.
I don't exactly do whole lots of Java development, and what little I have
done has not been for a "proper" JVM anyways. (some minor stuff for a
mockup/mini VM within my own projects).
so, alas, not much comment here.
in the same way, I would not likely consider something like Chrome unless
it
were at least as capable as a full Linux distro (even if I have noted that
the thing is too slow to really build or run any of my major projects on).
I am not even reading any of that hype.
First of all, I am not going to switch anything, especially on the O/S
level, until it had at least 2 years to run and most nasty things
are fixed.
Secondly, considering the fact that microsoft is in the game since
yearly eighties and have megatons of stuff developed, just to
go with some arrogant, greedy out of their mind monsters, and quite
literally at that, would be not only suicidal but outright stupid.
And I did have to deal with them on a much closer basis than
most people. Probably the most disgusting feeling I ever had.
"I don't care" lessness is at stratospheric level.
ok.
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