Re: Using std::less_equl predicate with std::min()

From:
"Igor Tandetnik" <itandetnik@mvps.org>
Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.vc.language
Date:
Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:01:45 -0500
Message-ID:
<#wNHV5ilKHA.5128@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
Stephan T. Lavavej [MSFT] <stl@microsoft.com> wrote:

There's a fundamental reason.
 
#1: When x is "smaller" than y, min(x, y) is required to return x.
#2: When x is "equivalent" to y, min(x, y) is required to return x.
#3: When x is "larger" than y, min(x, y) is required to return y.
 
For std::less-like predicates, there's a very simple implementation
that achieves this: return y < x ? y : x; and return pred(y, x) ? y :
x; for the generalized implementation.
 
Now suppose that min() allowed std::less_equal-like predicates.
return pred(y, x) ? y : x; doesn't work for std::less_equal (it
returns y for #2).


Ah, but Vladimir _wants_ it to return y for #2. He wants to use =
less_equal specifically for this purpose, trying to take advantage of an =
implementation detail. His complaint is about the debugging feature in =
MSVC STL implementation whereby less_equal is explicitly checked for and =
rejected (well, not specifically less_equal, but any predicate that =
violates strict weak ordering requirements).

Basically, his argument is that, instead of mandating that min() return =
the smaller of the two elements, the standard should have just stated =
that min(x, y, pred) returns (pred(y, x) ? y : x). Then std::less and =
std::less_equal would behave the way he wants (but not necessarily the =
way that obeys the principle of least surprise).

It's not quite clear how min_element should be specified in this new =
world, nor what restrictions should be placed on the predicate passed to =
it.
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