Re: Q: Free compiler for 64 bit Windows 7?
In article <hgrhcm$5ba$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "Alf P. Steinbach" <alfps@start.no> wrote:
* tanix:
In article <RKKdnft88JlPiazWnZ2dnUVZ_sti4p2d@giganews.com>, Pete Becker
<pete@versatilecoding.com> wrote:
tanix wrote:
In article <Re2dncsqjrDaXa3WnZ2dnUVZ_tZi4p2d@giganews.com>, Pete Becker
<pete@versatilecoding.com> wrote:
arunix wrote:
What about asking in a Windoze newsgroup?
Because its gcc based compiler.
Oh, of course: a gcc based compiler for Windows isn't a Windows compiler.
Sigh. gcc is just as off-topic as Windows.
What is this "off-topic" bullshit?
Have you heard of cygwin?
Yes, I'm familiar with cygwin. It's just as off-topic in this newsgroup
as "gcc" and "Windows compilers".
Who ARE you to dictate things like these to some of the most intelligent
people one can find and whose brains function well above average?
Pete is the one actually writing (editing) the C++ standard.
Oh, shitski!
Then I Have to put him back on the expert list.
Who knows, he might say something useful once in a while.
Ok, we'll do that. I can't let my ego stand on the way of information.
I think Pete's wrong about the topicality; at least discussions about available
C++ tools and GCC as an answer would be on-topic by the [clc++m] charter and
moderation guidelines, as I see it (both James Kanze and I are moderators
there), and assuming that my evaluation of that is correct, it would be a
little
incongruous to regard it as off-topic in this group, which lacks a charter!
Well, I just thought about this about half an hour ago,
and would like to mention it here.
It is GREAT that there exists a parallel, "moderated" group.
That means THIS group is not going to be taken over by those
"moderators", who, for some strange reason think THEY are the
ultimate reference on that, which IS and which is NOT.
Most of the "moderators" I had experience to deal with
are simply sick, power obscessed dictators, PERVERSELY
affecting the information flow with their lil ego trips.
It has been a disaster to what happened to Usenet.
Usenet is the LAST resourse left to mankind that is not dominated
and censored to the point of suffocations.
No web forums or blogs can provide uncensored discussions.
No IRC will do that.
Just because of this central concept of totalitarian dictate
called "moderation", where the MOST immoderate people end up
decidin on what kind of information all others are to see.
The decay of Usenet is probably the biggest disaster there is.
And I would advise ANYONE to do whatever they can to make sure
Usenet never dies.
For one thing, Usenet is the MOST robust, fully distributed
system, that supports and delivers ANY kind of information
conceivable, whithin the limitations imposed by the highest
level dictators, such as Jim Skirvin, one of the most despicable
and most evil people in the entire history of "big-8".
He has a key and HE decides which groups are to be created and
which groups are to be removed. And this pervert went to the
ultimate level of totalitarian sickness, and created a group
news.admin.moderation, meant to discuss the issues of this
ugly "moderation" thing, and made it "moderated", where HE
is the "moderator", and that sucker is the most immoderate
nazi I saw to date more or less.
Yes, when people publish some commercial stuff to buy this and that,
that is clearly an issue. But even there, there is nothing you can
do about it, more or less.
But you never know which discussion may fade away into what,
and what may come out of it. And you never know who is going
to be interested in seeing what kind of information or deciding
to participate in it.
Because this is HIGLY subjective.
Furthermore, I, personally, think it is a pitty that C++ has been
fragmented as badly as it is, to the point of obsene.
What IS the problem if someone talks about HIS version of C++,
be it GCC or VC or anything else for that matter?
You ALREADY have threads. If you don't like some thread
becasue you think you are a world caliber "scientist" and
YOU define what C++ is, then do not read that stuff.
But do not prevent OTHERS, who do want to read that stuff
from reading it.
I think it would be MUCH more beneficial if ANY C++ related
discussions could be conducted on a single forum.
You can easily create things like [GCC:], or [VC++] in the subject
header just like they do all over the place.
And instead, if you can not discuss threads, or GUI aspects
or ALL sorts of other things in one place. Because it is considered
to be "unclean" by some "experts", that, for some strange reason,
can not even slow down the relative decay of C++ as a language
as it is being replaced in more and more cases with dynamically
scope languages.
Again, your house is on fire. Nothing less than that.
Btw., it's amazing what kinds of people you meet on the net. ;-)
Cheers & hth.,
- Alf
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